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president obama have an exit strategy for afghanistan? pat buchanan? >> he does not. they are moving away from the mid 2011 deadline from the beginning of withdrawal of troops to show we are committed for a longer period of time. john, the problem is, we can't win the war with the forces we have in there. everybody knows it. however, the country is divided. the administration is divided. they don't want to lose this war and have the taliban execute. they don't want to keep bleeding the country either. they have a real problem in this sense. the liberal ring of the democratic party is moving away from the administration and there's a small antiwar conservative movement that is growing in the media and on capitol hill. so we are coming to a head in december when they had the december review of afghanistan. >> eleanor. >> i don't think they are working away from the july 2011 to begin exiting and they have a review planned for the end of december. and general patraeus, in the should remember short time he has been over there, they are empowering the neighborhood. they are essentially mili
. >> right. >> it goes to their heads and so, you know, this message -- >> pat buchanan. >> don't encourage them. >> pat buchanan feels that way about every hanging chad in palm beach county. >> people that voted for him. >> they did. >> a lot of jewish people in south florida, obviously, love pat buchanan. mark halperin, has his base. >> always has been. >> there is a none of the above in nevada and this year it's a damn good thing. >> a lot of unhappy people. >> senate race. >> can't -- none of the above means the encourage it can get. >> yeah. >> so tonight, on another note, although i fear getting him started -- we don't have the fan for you inside to blow your hair back. >> outdoors, with me working outdoors without hair spray -- >> 10:00 eastern time, the debut of "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> 7:00 p.m. pacific. >> your guest tonight? >> mr. joe biden, vice president. >> that's great. >> of the united states. >> that's big. >> i like to start big. >> huge. you will follow up with? >> next night we are going to have -- stick me with the vice presidential theme from a poss
pat buchanan. >> patrick! >> good morning. >> happy fall. how are you doing? >> doing just fine. >> the pat is back. >> the pat is back. >> i've missed him. >> bigger than ever. >> i love him. >> we have a lot to talk about. willie geist, you doing okay? >> i'm doing great. settled in. >> what is your favorite story this morning in "way too early"? >> my favorite story, i think, would be the inflammation, if you'll forgive the pun, of the koran burning story. hillary clinton talking about it yesterday and comparisons to abu great britain. abu ghraib. it's getting interests. >> did you talk to willie about his weekend? >> no, no, please. >> i would like to get to news. you can tell us later. >> celebrities. >> why would you bring that up? >> just another weekend of my life. >> what i said. he has like, i don't know, a liberal elitist version of you? i don't know. >> god. >> wow. >> wow! >> i'm going to do news now. >> go ahead. >> are you all right? >>> new developments this morning concerning a florida pastor who is planning to burn -- >> this is our lead story? >> and, by the w
.c., nbc political analyst pat buchanan. i don't know if pat is lathered up by what happened last night. pat, we'll get to you in a minute. i was awakened though in the middle of the night by a three-alarm -- not tweet, a three-alarm column by mark halprin, framing last night in opinion pox lip tick terms for the republican party. >> so apocalyptic. republicans were taking a senate seat, there was a building block to get back to the senate majority. it's gone barring some truly unforeseeable development. absolute binary switch. republicans now almost impossible to come up with a way they get the ten-seat majority. in the longer term it shows the republican party has a huge problem. they've benefit friday the tea party movement so far. they'll benefit in november but maybe having a huge, huge day. >> you know what? they'll win kentucky with rand paul. colorado, looks like it's going to go the republican's way. >> pennsylvania, florida. >> yeah. the tea party will help in all those states. >> even wisconsin. a lot of people that were democrats and said the tea party strength is going to c
to be there. we had a big crowd, very big crowd. >> it was fun. >> these guys weren't there. >> pat buchanan was on the show. >> she was on the show. >> i was there. >> sam was there. >> i was waiting to race pat buchanan, but he wouldn't race me. >> jonathan capehart came out dressed and i said, i can't handle that. >> i can't get over gene robinson's outfit. >> gene came out. willie in new york. >> thank you so much. >> it was a great crowd. capehart had the short shorts. i think they were shorter than mika's. they were impressive. >> i got a call saying get a blanket, girl. yeah, capehart was -- it was really fun. >> i've got to say, also, and i'm serious about this, about the young guns, those three republican guys that we made fun of unmercifully, and pat, dead serious here. you can always tell the guys that are going to stay around in washington for a while that get it. they take abuse, and it rolls right off their back and keep going. they came out. they were laughing at themselves. i've seen so many politicians, most of them short-timers. you punch them like that and they take it per
election. we are taking the show on the road to washington, d.c. mika, did you hear that? pat buchanan used to drink a coca-cola every day and he almost became president of the united states. >> it's time for pat to evolve. >> we are here to bring awareness to obesity to this country and get congress moving towards a solution. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends, that obesity costs the u.s. economy at least $215 billion a year. that's the finding of a new brookings institution study which says those costs include lost productivity, absenteeism, disability and premature debt. nearly one-third of american adults are obese. >> let's huddle around the water cooler to dig back in to christine o'donnell this is from a 1998 appearance from bill maher's old show "politically incorrect." the subject was religion. the question was what would you do if you had to lie to hitler? >> lie whether it be a lie or an exaggeration is disrespect to whoever you are exaggerating or lying to. >> quite the opposite, it can be respect. >> it's not respecting reality. >> what if it comes to you in th
. >> the great. >> pat buchanan. who, at times, will show his range. >> fashion statement with the glasses. pat, where are the glasses, buddy some. >> glasses are right here. >> there you go. downtown pat. there he is! >> love those glasses. >> i can see now! >> shoo is the image that comes to mind. >> you didn't see pat around east hampton this summer. >> i don't believe it. >> wherever the hot spot was, there was pat surrounded by a gaggle of adoring young girls. >> good to have all of these boys on board. >> why is all that there? serious. >> i brought this because i just know that willie will -- >> "the jersey shore." and then donnie here. >> disinfect. >> yes. quite seriously we have a lot going on. especially pertaining to this story which i wish would just go away. i think we all do. and i just don't know how the media can get blamed at this point when every high level official literally on every level at the white house has talked about this and across the pond as well which is this koran burning. so let's start there. we will dip back in on the fire out in san francisco when necessary.
as well. msnbc political analyst pat buchanan will join me. >>> plus, what new advice is former president bill clinton offering to president barack obama? >>> and the texas board of education, under fire again. this time it's because some people feel history textbooks are focusing too much on islamic beliefs. this is an entire school board that is looking at this. more ahead on msnbc. ching to geo really save you 15% or more on car insurance? did the little piggy cry wee wee wee all the way home? piggy: weeeeeee, weeeeeee, weeeeeee, weeeee weeeeeeee. mom: max. ...maxwell! piggy: yeah? mom: you're home. piggy: oh,cool, thanks mrs. a. anncr: geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. [ male announcer ] ever have morning pain slow you down? introducing bayer am, an extra strength pain reliever with alertness aid to fight fatigue. so get up and get goin'! with new bayer am. the morning pain reliever. and i was a pack-a-day smoker for 25 years. i do remember sitting down with my boys, and i'm like, "oh, promise mommy you'll never ever pick up a cigarette." and brian looked at me at eight
left since july. question, after 20 months, is this presidential staff turnover normal? pat buchanan. >> this is not terribly unusual if you have a presidency in trouble. john, when you came into the white house, '71, john connolly came in, dave kennedy was out. nixon closed the goal window, let the dollar flow. he sent arthur burns to the federal reserve. they gunned the money supply to $23 billion deficits. that was enormously dramatic in terms of a change. this is nothing like that. rahm is going out there because there's an opening for mayor's office and secondly, because he has been hammered and had a bad time. but i don't think this is extraordinarily unusual. i don't see any signs of panic here. >> a vietnam war on his hands. >> nixon, our election was disappointing and he took that big move. john connolly was lyndon johnson's man that had taken texas away from him. that is a big, big -- >> how long did connolly serve? >> two years until he became the chairman -- >> this isn't even two years. >> he served for two years and became chairman for democrats for nixon. >> it'
is low. historically so. did this week put president obama back on an upward track? pat buchanan. >> no it did not, john. there's no doubt he was in campaign mode and spoke more eloquently there. he mentioned john boehner and attacked him by name seven times and nobody in the country knows who john boehner is. secondly the mosque issue and the issue of the burning korans was a tremendous distraction all week. third, his proposal, some of which are interesting, credits like that. they are too little, they are too late. frankly some of his rhetoric, they treat me like a dog is getting pity me, it doesn't come off well. >> what is the political part on obama's part? >> you have to put a face on the opposition and mr. boehner is a pretty good face. he has been in the congress since 1990. he was part of the gingrich revolution in 1995. he was video taped on the house floor handing out checks from the tobacco industry to members while they were discussing ending tobacco subsidies. he advocated in cleveland a few days before the president made this speech. he is advocating a return to
with their report in december. >> thank you very much, john harwo harwood. now i'm joined by pat buchanan, msnbc political analyst. also a former republican presidential candidate. let me get your gut reaction to this pledge to america. >> i think it's a mistake. i don't think the republicans should have come out with a pledge or plan like this. it is not very specific. you simply direct attention now to what you're going to do. how are you going to make these cuts? the republicans are not going to repeal obama care. they don't have the votes. you would have to have two-thirds of both houses to override a presidential veto. now we're talking about republican ideas, where they're going to cut. red state is unhappy about it. what are we doing when we've got the tremendous momentum going, and you stop the momentum cold. >> why do it? boehner and the others would have to know people would say, okay, you want to cut spending, what are you going to cut? you want to repeal health care reforms when people are now learning the details and benefits of it. what are you going to replace it with? >> exactly.
. >> pat buchanan, msnbc political analyst and gop strategist and eugene robinson who is a journalist with "washington post" as well as msnbc analyst. eugene, first thing i've got to say is that all three of the cablers were watching the president at the united nations and nobody could take the republic republicans life. what do you think of that strategy? >> i think that's called bad timing. >> they didn't know that president obama was speaking before the united nations. this came as a surprise to them? >> i think you ought to check the president's schedule. you know, presidents have a way of stepping on the big moments of opposition parties. but this, everybody knew that obama was going to speak. they should have worked around his schedule. but then, again, if you actually look at the pledge to america, you know, on second thought, maybe it's a good thing that more people didn't see it unveiled. >> well, you know what, let me look at it this way, jean. let me ask you about this, former president bill clinton was on "morning joe" this morning and he says he thinks that the president'
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and former press secretary for hillary clinton and msnbc contributor pat buchanan is a republican strategist, former gop presidential candidate and nbc analyst. pat, with you excluded, you don't get to be a presidential candidate or a president by not having a healthy ego. did jimmy carter say, frapgly, what all ex-presidents actually think? >> well, he did. sadness, jimmy carter feels deeply unappreciated by his country which rejected him for ronald reagan, who is now beloved. he feels he didn't get health care because teddy kennedy stole that from him. and he believes he's immorally superior president and the things he'd done been on a higher, moral level. he has to say it himself and it comes off very offensive. and, as i say, all the presidents probably think they're unappreciated, but he lets the public know that he feels this and i don't think that comes off very well. >> is it kind of a sad, karen, because i think there are an awful lot of people that in some measure what he said is true. the carter center has done a lot of good. you see what bill clinton has done and you see what geo
. the difference as i said before, cy and registered voters. morthese top fights bring in pat buchanan and washington bureau chief david corn who also writes for dailypoliticsdaily.com. pat, i was stunned that jerry brown after all the mileage on this guy, everybody's seen him for years out there in california as mayor of oakland, governor of california for two terms, chairman of the democratic party, all kinds of publicity, good and bad over the year, lots of experience and looking at the guy, they can't decide. 41-41 means 18% of likely voters haven't made up their minds. >> well, i think it's very bad news i think for jerry brown. of course, this lady spent $120 million i believe, chris, just to get to a tie, so i don't think she's an extraordinary strong candidate. what it does tell you though is how deeply democratic the state of california has become since the days of richard nixon and ronald reagan when we put it right from the bank before the election started. >> maybe richard nixon has something to do with that. let me ask david corn this economy. why are so many undecided wit
of the candidate. pat buchanan and karen finney. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> so pat, we'll begin with you this time. and kentucky senate candidate rand paul also had a rocky start to the campaign after make something controversial comment. do you think tea party candidates are finding themselves far outside the mainstream and that's why they're getting that kind of attention? >> not at all. i mean, one of the toughest cases we've gotten is in nevada. sharon angle's running even, rand paul's ahead, rubio's ahead, toomey is ahead. mike lee in utah, they're all ahead. this is the toughest race we've got right here and for a number of reasons. delaware is a liberal state. had a very bloody primary. mike castle lost. he's very popular. the castle republicans are abandoning christine o'donnell or have not come back. she's controversial. no doubt bill maher has put out this stuff and it has been an attack on her. can her energy and enthusiasm and the money that is pouring in behind her and the general wave, can that overcome what are really big odds? >> i'm going to ask you thi
strategist and msnbc political analyst pat buchanan, also with us democratic strategist and msnbc contributor karen finney. it's wonderful to see you both. thanks for joining us in our extended broadcast here. >> good to be with you. pat, i'm curious what you think has changed in these nine years later. how do you see that? >> alex, i mean, we just -- i just watch many of these pictures we've been showing and it brought back all the grief and the horror and and the loss but what we had back then, it seems to me, was a real sense of a national unity in the face of an enormous wound upon our whole american family. and i'm afraid what you see today is a dispatience sipation unity and even manifested today if you will in these warring rallies on different sides of the issue. i think that's what happened. people have lost that sense of unity. as you pointed out with those numbers you just gave the fear of terrorism has diminished but th at is a good thing in this sense because it's reflective of the enormous success of the people who are defending us. >> pat, let me tell you that you are exactly e
analyst, pat buchanan. all right, great to see both of you. first of all, given the numbers that we've seen today in the nbc news "wall street journal" poll, bob, this is going to be a landslide election, a big wave election? >> i'm not ready to say that. but i have to admit, i feel a little bit like pat did when we were sitting here in '06 having these same frconversations. democrats have a big problem. in fact, maybe we ought to abolish the month of august, because it doesn't go very well for us. the one good piece of news in the poll, is there's a tie among registered voters. young people are not showing up at all and they have a 73% approval rating for the president. i think the key to this is energizing the base. we're not going to do it by talking about infrastructure, by the way. >> or r&d tax credits. >> nobody ever marched to the polls under a banner saying infrastructure. but they might march to the polls under a banner saying social security, since representative paul ryan's proposed for the republicans to privatize it. >> you think young people are going to march to the
wilder and msnb political adviser pat buchanan. governor wilder, as you are watching barack obama, you think he's getting a little bit of his mojo back? >> chris, it's good to be with you. the big problem that the democrats have and the president, i think, understands it, getting his mojo back to get him elected is one thing. getting his mojo back for transference is something different. and don't moind sind saying tha people were put back or put down by joe biden saying to people, stop whining. you don't have a job, stop whining. you don't have a mortgage, stop whining. things aren't good for you, stop whining. i think it will be much better for the president to deliver this kind of message to say this. i recognize that i have not done all the things that i could have done and would have liked to have done. i could and eating a lot of food. it's amazing. >> so you car how heavy you are, no matter how long you've been overweight, you are not genetically doomed to be fat. this plan will work for anyone who does it. no matter how much weight you have to lose, you truly can make over your
governor delivered a high profile speech to the gop in that key primary state. we'll bring in pat buchanan, republican strategist and also with us karen finney, former dnc communications director and msnbc contributor. welcome back to the two of. >> hi. >> hi, alex. >> ladies first here. karen, beginning with you. a simple trip to the midwest or something much bigger. >> if that trip to the midwest is iowa about this time of year, yeah, that's presidential politics. although i actually don't think that sarah palin's final intention is to run for office. i think she's enjoying kind of being a political celebrity. she's had a good primary runs, she's able to give paid speeches and weigh in with her advice without having the accountability of her own ideas. >> do you agree with that, pat? do you think she's going to not make a run for it? >> without any doubt she's enjoying the role she's playing now. the trip out to iowa, whether she's going to run or not, has caused tremendous amount of excitement and interest and elevates her profile even higher. but i wonder if she's going to get in -- my
of access to a reporter faming fous for bringing down t nixon administration? let's bring in pat buchanan and barry mccaffrey. i want to read to you both something that was written in politico. they quote an official within the obama administration saying, instead of thinking i'm talking to bob woodward, i'd better be careful, sources tend to think, i'm talking to bob woodward, i better tell him something good. pat, was this a dangerous game to play, to give bob woodward this kind of access, do you think? >> i think it was in the sense the obama administration is not completed. it's at the beginning. it was in very serious trouble when bob woodward went to work and it made an enormously controversial decision. everyone knew this afghan battle was going on inside the white house. now everybody is trying to get their story on the record for woodward, and in the first draft of history. what's happened is, i think, we're all talking now about those things people said that trashed others inside the white house. so first, i think it's going to be damaging to white house morale, obviously. secon
contributor and pat buchanan, a republican strategist and analyst. sarah palin says to christine o'donnell, some people would argue that strategy has helped rand paul, is sarah palin right? >> she sure is. christine o'donnell did an outstanding job the day after the election, i think she has been on seven national shows, all of them except "morning joe." >> which he said repeatedly. >> which we've mentioned on the air. but i think, look, she has all the national attention and she's nationally known. i agree with her, you don't want to go on the national shows and say does witchcraft practice -- >> does it make it look like she's scared to answer a tough question from david gregory? >> no, no, no, no. look, you don't want to go on a national show and answer whether you practice witchcraft at a slumber party in junior high. for heaven sakes. the press is in a wild moment right now, get away from those folks, get on there and get on the issues. >> we're the bad guys, again, karen finny. is she smart, politically, politically is this a smart move for her, karen? would you tell her to d
candidates. >> reporter: pat buchanan believes the republican establishment has to trade carefully. >> history shows if you cut the coming movement, it will cut you. nixon campaigned for goldwater in '64. '68 he was the nominee and president. nelson rockefeller wouldn't wear a goldwater button. 10 years later he was thrown off of ford's ticket. >> reporter: the president is on the campaign trail tonight. he's in connecticut. it's that senate seat that chris dodd is vacating. the republican candidate is another candidate with an unusual background that the democrats doesn't propel her into office and they're trying to stop it and keep that seat blue. >> chuck todd at the white house tonight. >>> former president jimmy carter doing publicity for his new book "white house diary." it contends americans would have universal health care coverage already and would have had it decades ago were it not for the late senator ted kennedy who often was called the champion of health care. the two men were archrivals and carter indicates kennedy just didn't want the carter effort to be successful,
s n.l. target. here he was after a weak showing against pat buchanan in the 1992 primary. >> i sure got the message and i got it, i'm going to write it right down, message right here, message being written right now. i'm moving the implement that will form the letters that will spell said message, the message that i got. p and here is that message. chris: when we come back, the new bob woodward book shows this president skirmishing with the pentagon and denied an exit plan after months of requests. scoops and predictions from the notebooks of our top reporters. >> get the full newspaper p delivered to your mac or p.c. and works on your existing computer. >> connect to download put news. convenient, simple, prioritized so you know what to read first. browse by section or article and then dive deeper and get the whole story. plus videos. breaking news, a seven-day archive, even interactive cross words. act now, visit nytimes.com have a timesreader2. no one delivers world class journalism like this. >> as commander in chief, i have determined it is in our vital national interests to se
ban cal, pat buchanan, gene robinson, jonathan capehart and a swarm of people all over the place. i'll be participating in a 3k walk to promote active lifestyles, showing everybody that it's -- >> that's our route. >> look at this, how cool is this. do you think you'll make it all the way around. >> i have to say, mike barnacle, they say it's never too late to be healthy. i think in my case and your case, it's too late. >> the only good thing about this route we just saw is that down at the end, joe, because the top of the food mere mid for us, coke and fries down at the ends. >> i love it. >> a healthy brunch. >> i've asked louis to get you one of those -- >> a segue. >> you're not riding a segue. you're walking. mark halprin, how fascinating that democrats seem to be willing to compromise on these so-called tax cuts for the rich that we've heard would cause the end of the world if they were extended. now everybody from barack obama to the majority leader of the house, steny hoyer, saying, okay, we'll talk. >> i'm not one who is automatically cynical and says everything that happen
darling to stun the gop favorite. what do these candidates have in common? let's bring in pat buchanan along with karen finney, msnbc contributor. hello to the two of you. >> hello. how are you doing? >> i'm well, thanks. i have to go with you first, pat, because you have a long history with the wing of the conservative party. >> this is like the goldwater movement way back when i came into politics in the early '60s. not only wants to beat the democratic party of jack kennedy. they've knocked off more than the two you mentioned. they must have knocked off eight people. six of them are probably going to win and two may be doubtful. what this is is a movement as a prelude to taking back their country. now i think there's going to be a huge success for republicans this year. when you consider where we were two years ago, moribund and despair, 20 more years of obama democratic rule. the tea party has been an enormous asset for the republican party. >> karen, we have to see how the midterms all shape up, but there's no doubt that the tea party has real momentum behind it. to what extent is
are left standing if they react to the mood of the country. pat buchanan had an interesting point in this volatile environment, all bets are off. nobody can predict with certainty. >> right. moreoverwe don't want republicans to take the senate in the house and start passing great stuff then obama will get a second term like clinton did. >> sean: clinton was suggesting that. >> was saved by the '94 republican congress. >> sean: he would have to do what clinton did. he can't stay the rigid ideologue he is we might accomplish a few things, balance budgets. republicans led the effort. ending welfare, republicans led the effort. clinton just signed the bill so he could get reelected. >> high taxes are good for the economy because look at clinton he raised taxes and -- eight years later the economy was booming. did anything else happen in that time? 1994 election, he raised taxes and the economy was a disaster. thus, the 1994 election, thus taxes got cut and the economy came back. >> sean: that's what we need. coulter, good to see you. i love having my conservative friends here in new y
to be on with pat buchanan, a very well-known republican, friend to republicans. he said he would be fired as communications director if he decided to announce this plan at the same time the president was speaking to the united nations, that anybody could predict the news programs would take the president at the u.n. was there a misstep in getting this out to the american people? >> you're focusing on the politics and presentation of it. i'm not concerned with it. i'm not sure that's what the american people are concerned with. the american people want to know there's efforts to address the issues of concern to them. they do not feel the effort is being made. the point being, not that maybe we should have timed it better. maybe we should have had a different backdrop. i don't think the american people care about that. what the american people care about is having a choice. there's one party for more limited government and lower taxes. and i think that was the presentation that was made. frankly, it's an important presentation to make however it is presented. >> congressman bill cassidy of
to basically break down the structure that we have. in that regard, pat buchanan is right. so i say that you've got to cap it. >> let's bring in a non-member of the white/christian/male power structure. arshan hasad. thanks for your time tonight, sir. >> my pleasure. >> correcting my videotape, that's bush's -- beck's rally from 8/28, not the one from 9/11. on the numbers, who is right here? is the future glenn beck's audience or bill o'reilly's worst fears? >> well, you lead it out, keith. any seventh grader can do this math, and clearly glenn beck hasn't been able to. this is a nation that's becoming increasingly diverse and pluralistic. and if we want to build a movement, and i think, you know, glenn beck has been doing that, i guess. you have to be able to build a broad, progressive movement that's broad based. if you have to do the math, we already have a successful model. barack obama won with enormous portion and enormous share of the vote, and that was a coalition built of young people, minorities, people of broad interests all over this country. >> how much of the enthusiasm, thus t
. he recruited pat buchanan and donald trump who attacked mr. buchanan as having a love affair with adolph hitler before mr. trump himself got out of the race. the book end candidates to attack and trace each other that result in a stronger party with no threat. this happens a lot. unless we switch to the system we call instant run off voting or australian voting where if the first choice doesn't win, give my vet to the second choice. they are spoilers in the two major party system and that creates incredible incentives. the third party is a means of syphoning off votes from the major parties. we see them with the green party to syphon voes from democrats. this is one of the rare mopes in politics where the beltway media device was saying it happens on both sides. it's true. just as the "new york times" is highlighting this instance of third party expectations. with the green party candidates, the detroit news is reporting on a democratic dirty tricks case. democrats having tried to qualify fake tea party candidates. a democratic official notarized afts and get the tea party ca
been. richard wolffe, you hear the white house was giddy when they heard that comment. pat buchanan was saying yesterday, you gave something for the democrats to run against and now, john boehner just gave them a quote to use on tv ads. >> sure they did. remember how george bush packaged himself in 2000 as a different republican. it's the same old republican. he was talking about social issues. it's not about the economic policies, which the white house would prefer to talk about. if you are just coming back with a same old same old, they want to throw all incumbents out. they want change to business as usual. i don't know how more of the same is what people want to hear. they want radically new things. most of all on the economy. i don't think either the family stuff or going back to the past is a winning message in either case. >> chuck, i think that the republicans were trying to say they're not going to do much. they were trying to say we're going to -- obama's done a lot, we're going to do very little. they wanted to put a document that said were for the same things we always w
correspondent and pat buchanan, msnbc analyst. pat, in the innering sanctum, where you meet sometimes with the heart of a true administration, are they sure they are lucky the right is winning these battles of the republican party? >> i will say this. they act as if there is a little bit of a bounce in their step today, as if they see a path to survival. i'm not going to say it is a path to victory but a path to survival, suddenly, you hear these guys talk about man, maybe democrats will hold the senate, you know? maybe this -- maybe the republican party is going to be too extreme for the middle of the country and while they may have short-term success in november that when they get to -- when they get to washington, the chaos of it is going to allow the president to look like the reasonable adult in the crowd. so, in essence, first of all, i think they are just relieved that fosh three days, for a couple of days, they are not the punching bag and instead, the media is all focus old -- focused on this intraparty feud. let's face it political parties do this time and again, particularl
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